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Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 12:27 pm Posts: 91
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 Jan's Ban
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| Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:39 pm |
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 Soulshatter | |
Joined: Sun May 24, 2009 5:43 am Posts: 55 Location: Undercut of IceCrown
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Wtf? is that a kinda joke or...?
Thats bullshit lol, howcome Janissary can be offensive while there is a class named Paladin? or maybe priest?
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| Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:06 pm |
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Joined: Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:52 pm Posts: 118 Location: Varna,Bulgaria
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I think someone from my fellow sitizens (only we are stupid enought but i expect it from anyone in this side of the world) did that and yes its only because someone did ticket for that name as "offensive". Doesnt matter if there are like 20000 more with that name when one in this realm says it's offensive it should be changed...i had same problem with one of my alts...maybe some jewish boy didnt liked my rogue "wehrmacht" so i had to change it...
And well personally i dont find it offensive as actually you say that Christians was your best army(which is quite ironically). Ofc the way taking those "new soldiers" is kinda full of violation and etc...To be proud with something like that is quite stupid too as you violated all of the human rights with that "brainwashing" janissary system. And well the guy who did that ticket is also right too as it is kind of genocide against the Christian population to assimilate them in total different as dogmatic "empire".
There is no point of refusing to change it cause...they can prove it is symbol of violation(i say it again i dont find any problem but well there are more shovinists than me  ).
Maybe it's some armenian boy, i heard they hate you cause of some little "genocide" you tidied up not so long ago and refusing to confess  .
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| Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:08 pm |
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Joined: Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:52 pm Posts: 118 Location: Varna,Bulgaria
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And Ozzi you are teacher and you know Christmas is actually not a Christian holiday,(i am Atheist too) but i can't see how you will explain to every stupid kid who dont know what is "Eid al-Adha" or "Ramadan" or the rest of thousands holidays and why they are celebrating it(i know what they are and i think they are as good as christians actually i dont see any difference).
Asweknow the christian religion is leading religion in the world atleast the religion with lots of influence even now in the politic stuff. How the pope will accept a game where the children are celebrating holidays of the sworn "enemy"? I mean everyone is talking about the tolerance but it's only words so the world to dont have new Crusades or Jihad...well we have both them in regions of the world still...No point of attacking blizz like that Ozzi spare your writing better  .
Btw i am transfering soon maybe tomorrow sooo expect one poor paladin  .
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| Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:31 pm |
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Joined: Thu May 08, 2008 4:07 pm Posts: 249 Location: under your bed... being the baddy!
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i got a few things to say lol
1) OH MY GOD this is absolute bullshit
2) OH MY GOD this is still absolute bullshit
3) jan, why for the love of god didnt you change it when the GM asked you? you know they shoot first before they start to ask questions around. i know that name values you to some degree... but its not worth the ban. not fun, now we cant run ulduar for 3 weeks again... i hate my life..
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| Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:46 pm |
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Joined: Tue May 20, 2008 3:25 pm Posts: 107 Location: Panties, Sweden
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Why haven´t they banned my Aphrodite yet? Or when I were runing around with Arkimedes? :/
Blizztard on the move, everyone Duck!
Btw creating char on Neptulon now, to come in and disturb you :3
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Aphrodite the Love Fool
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| Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:08 pm |
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:37 pm Posts: 62 Location: On my throne
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Haha are they serious? XDD
Omg  Here I am running around with a character named Rape and Jani is the one getting banned
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| Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:32 pm |
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Joined: Thu May 08, 2008 9:47 am Posts: 178 Location: Near Ozzi
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I can't believe............
Ignorance is Blissard!
(yes Lacrima is me)
PS. If Blizztard don't take a step back I am thinking to quit of this game. Pls try to understand me. When an offical thinks that your past is offensive to others and you should be banned for this, this game is not for me then!
PS2. As I said in the WoW forums, I am not a religous nor a faschist person. I just can't take it when they listen to someone and not the other side. If my opinions are offensive to anyone please forgive me.
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| Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:19 pm |
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Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 12:27 pm Posts: 91
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Mormegil, just one thing - Christmas is celebrated to remember Jesus Christ's birthday - ergo, it is a Christian holiday.
If you mean the thing about Santa Clause - yes, he is Turkish (as is also Saint Valentine) but used for Christian celebrations.
Those not Christian celebrate only New Year's Holiday, because we enter a new year, with new hope. Excepting the Chinese, who merely celebrate the same holiday at a different date.
Only Christians celebrate Christmas. That's why it is called CHRISTmas.
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| Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:32 pm |
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Joined: Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:52 pm Posts: 118 Location: Varna,Bulgaria
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Ok obviously someone should tell you that:
"-In ancient Babylon, the feast of the Son of Isis (Goddess of Nature) was celebrated on December 25. Raucous partying, gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift-giving were traditions of this feast."
"-In Rome, the Winter Solstice was celebrated many years before the birth of Christ. The Romans called their winter holiday Saturnalia, honoring Saturn, the God of Agriculture. In January, they observed the Kalends of January, which represented the triumph of life over death. This whole season was called Dies Natalis Invicti Solis, the Birthday of the Unconquered Sun. The festival season was marked by much merrymaking. It is in ancient Rome that the tradition of the Mummers was born. The Mummers were groups of costumed singers and dancers who traveled from house to house entertaining their neighbors. From this, the Christmas tradition of caroling was born."
"-In 350, Pope Julius I declared that Christ’s birth would be celebrated on December 25. There is little doubt that he was trying to make it as painless as possible for pagan Romans (who remained a majority at that time) to convert to Christianity. The new religion went down a bit easier, knowing that their feasts would not be taken away from them."
So as i said everything is cheap stolen from the forgotten ones  .
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| Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:47 pm |
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Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 12:27 pm Posts: 91
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lol I'm not denying that the whole world was pagan before Christianity and had many cheerful occassions to celebrate, but after Christianity, Christmas, with Santa, gnomes, elves and presents under the trees - is a holiday for Christians only - hence the name.
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| Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:02 pm |
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Joined: Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:52 pm Posts: 118 Location: Varna,Bulgaria
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And about the main topic  .Still Vicci is totally right about that.You should change the name or blizz gone mad.Had same problem so i know that from personnal expirience.I too liked my wehrmacht  .
Tassle you know the history has many pointing of view.You see in Janissary a soldier conquering and defending Turkey(ex-Ottoman empire).But what the Serbians,Hungarians,Grecks and Bulgarians (and all others who sufferded from that)thinks about when they hear Janissary?
The guy that did the ticket for banning Jan dont know him and when he saw someone named like that he probably th8:"See thats some turk thats very proude of stealing christian child by force from their families.He is probably some fanatic who wants returning of Ottoman empire again." It's not blizz fault or Jan's fault about what happend and there is no point of attacking the guy who did the ticket. He also pays for that game and as everyone else wants to have fun in the game.
The only conclusion we must do is that Jan dont have any imagination to get new name for his char  .
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| Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:06 pm |
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Joined: Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:52 pm Posts: 118 Location: Varna,Bulgaria
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Well as Atheist (atleast you say you are) you should not care about that as i do.Let the other stupid ppl thinks they are celebrating some carpenter's birth for me is just a day that i dont go to university  .
Dont mess with the elves and gnomes and Santa that's really cheap stolen from all of cultures in whole world...like Santa actually is stolen by nordic myths for "Yule"(their christmas) where Odin(their main god) with a carriage gaved blessing to everyone on the 25dec  .
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| Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:22 pm |
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Joined: Sun May 24, 2009 5:43 am Posts: 55 Location: Undercut of IceCrown
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Mormegil i think you are thinking about this subject so seriously. War is the truth of the world so there is no point on saying things like "Janissaries attack christians", "No, Christians tried to destroy all", Yes we(Turks) conquered, killed but those we did also done to us. Some people call me as a fachist person, maybe i'm, but still i dont find any point on arguing on these historical things.
But even if people wants to do that, then check that.
Quote From Wikipedia
Quote: The paladins, sometimes known as the Twelve Peers, were the foremost warriors of Charlemagne's court, according to the literary cycle known as the Matter of France.[1] They first appear in the early chansons de geste such as The Song of Roland, where they represent Christian martial valor against the Saracen hordes. The paladins and their associated exploits are largely later fictional inventions, with some basis on historical Frankish retainers of the 8th century and events such as the Battle of Roncevaux Pass and the confrontation of the Frankish Empire with Umayyad Al-Andalus in the Marca Hispanica.
That would be retarted to say "I saw a guy named Janissary, i get it offensive, do something about him" while playing a game including "Paladin".
And mormegil, Please read/learn and make sure if any genocide is done against christian. I just cant sit here and saying nothing about your those words.
Im sorry to change topic's subject even im not leading that.
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| Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:32 pm |
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Joined: Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:52 pm Posts: 118 Location: Varna,Bulgaria
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Well the whole thing that happend with jan jan is based on history so it should be clear imo.So it should be explained all points of view and i am trying to explain to Jan specifially the reason for the ticket that provoqued blizz to ask him to change his name.You are really thick dont you  .
Those things are really serious cause he is banned etc...
And janissaries did actually killed christians that's true but...they were born christians do they?They were taken from their families by force?And then after years of brainwashing they were sending back to kill maybe their relatives...that's sick really.Even the nazi wouldnt do that.
And what christians did to ottomans before starting the invasion in Eastern Roman Empire?What the knights crusaders did is only provoqued from the "war" based religion that pushed the arabs and saracens to conquering their countries. The muslums were the ones who wanted to take over whole world. But there wasnt any crusade or united attack from those "paladins" you are talking, despite they are more like legendary chars, before the "mighty" ottomans slauthered whole south-east Europe and didnt came near Hungary.If you want to see some genocide see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide
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| Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:01 pm |
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